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› October 22, 2003
ALA: Redesigned
Jeffrey does a beautiful job redesigning ALA, while Joe Clark, Douglas Bowman, and Dan Benjamin kick it off with great articles.
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1. October 22, 2003 09:00 AM
2. October 22, 2003 09:23 AM
Ben Darlow Posted…
Just to confirm; Smoothwheel breaks the new ALA design. I'm not sure exactly what it is about the new design that causes Smoothwheel to misbehave, but I'm investigating it...
3. October 22, 2003 11:01 AM
Anthony Posted…
I find it hard to read. Is it me or is the size of the headlines and the size of the authors are a bit on the big side. Also, i think there should be more space between the article column and the navigatio column.
4. October 22, 2003 11:14 AM
Nate Posted…
Ha! First PlainsCapitol, now ALA, the WG readership can be quite brutal (not that I'm discouraging it in the least). To balance things out - note that the HTML is super simple and clean as a whistle. Also the sobering conclusions of Joe Clarks article seem to be applied here, no FIR used on semantic content (something this site is currently guilty of).
In glancing over the HTML I noticed the imagetoolbar meta tag - wow I wish I had known about that long ago - removing the default image resizing behavior of Win IE is a uber useful trick.
5. October 22, 2003 04:44 PM
liorean Posted…
Guess what I just came here to report on...
Hmm, does the imagetoolbar meta tag affect mozilla image zooming as well?
6. October 23, 2003 08:08 AM
andreas Posted…
Hm. If I am correct, this imagetoolbar meta tag has nothing to do with image resizing, but with, well, IE's imagetoolbar. ;-) So, image zooming/resizing in IE and Mozilla is unaffected, as far as I understand.
7. October 23, 2003 08:21 AM
Nate Posted…
Ah, thanks for clearing that up andreas. I should have been more clear when I said "default image resizing behavior" - by which I meant the imagetoolbar behavior of downsizing images larger than the browser window, and the fact that many windows ie folks do not realize that it's an option which can be disabled, but is enabled by default.
8. October 23, 2003 01:36 PM
andreas Posted…
Sorry for nitpicking, but I still think there's some confusion about the effects of the imagetoolbar metatag on IE's 'image toolbar' and 'automatic image resizing' functionality.
The metatag prevents the 'image toolbar' from appearing on pictures that are equal or bigger than 130x130px (in other words - no image on the pretty ALA would trigger the image toolbar's appearance anyway). However, it does not prevent IE's 'automatic image resizing' (and the corresponding orange button in the down right corner), as this functionality is only available when viewing single images in the browser that are bigger than the browser window ('automatic image resizing' does not work when a picture is embedded in a webpage).
Deactivating the 'image toolbar' from the user side can be done by rightclicking it when it appears. 'Automatic image resizing' can be turned off in the 'Advanced' tab of the 'Internet options' panel.
9. October 23, 2003 01:59 PM
liorean Posted…
Just tested. It does affect images in html pages as well as single images in ie6.0w, original unpatched version. Moz does only resize single images, however.
10. October 23, 2003 02:14 PM
Anne Posted…
andreas,
Since imagetoolbar should actually send by a header (at least, that is were the http-equiv if for, it is theoretically possible to use it when someone views only the image, not?
11. October 23, 2003 02:59 PM
andreas Posted…
Liorean, what is that 'it' refering to?
Anne, Zeldman's entry about the Finder icon bug is a good example of how the imagetoolbar http-equiv metatag works. No image toolbar when you hover over the 400x283px image - the page's imagetoolbar metatag is set to "false". Viewing the individual image however doesn't prevent the toolbar from appearing (in IE, of course).
12. October 23, 2003 08:17 PM
13. October 31, 2003 05:08 PM
avih Posted…
@Ben: i had a look at the smoothwheel issue, and posted a workaround on my page . to sum it up, the solid style of the top border of the body element breaks smoothwheel for some strange reason. i also tried border-style: solid; but it wouldn't work as well. ball is in your hands for now.
cheers (for the nice site as well)
avih
14. November 4, 2003 03:09 PM
Chillpill Posted…
I agree the articles are bloody excellent, the visual style isn't my bag, but that dosen't mean it's bad, just not my style. The biggest gripe I would have (since I'm addicted to the content, and this IS supposed to be an example of bleeding edge standards compliancy and accessibilty) is that there is NO SEARCH FIELD/FUNCTION on the site itself. I mean wtf? :-P You either manually trawl through the menus, or use Google (which fortunately has indexed ALA quite well) to search ALA. Dunno, maybe I'm just missing something.
Ben Darlow Posted…
I'm just about to start reading....but wait! I can't scroll the page with my mousewheel? Hmm, works fine in IE6/Win and Firebird 0.7/Win, but not in Mozilla 1.5/Win. I do have the Smoothwheel plugin installed, but how could that stop the whole page scrolling...? Anyone else get this weirdness?