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› May 19, 2003

PDA Accessibility

  • Reported by Radu

since I can't call such a wonderful device my own, I searched the goood gooogle for a PDA-emulator; so I found this simulator (german language).

is this a real-life one? does anyone know something better for testing some xhtml-code?

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1. May 19, 2003 06:25 PM

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Darrel Posted…

Palm has an emulator as does Microsoft for their PocketPC devices.

2. May 19, 2003 06:25 PM

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Dave S. Posted…

They're cheating, that's not a true emulator. It's just using your browser's rendering engine with minor differences. I suppose maybe because Pocket IE doesn't support Importing (or for some other totally bizarre reason) they're stripping out certain structural elements, but leaving the rest intact. Linked stylesheets work fine. That part is weird. (I loaded my site in both IE and Mozilla through that emulator - the mistakes I made in my Mozilla code render exactly the same, whereas they don't show up in IE....)

3. May 19, 2003 07:01 PM

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Daniel Von Fange Posted…

Yes, that is just using a frame, and then passing the site's css through a munger. It's not a real simulator, unfortunately.

4. May 19, 2003 07:18 PM

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Michael B Posted…

Try POSE -- http://www.palmos.com/dev/tools/emulator/ http://oasis.palm.com/dev/kb/papers/1311.cfm Tips on using it for web testing at: http://www.its.uiowa.edu/cs/sp/pda/PDA-handheldfriendly.html

5. May 19, 2003 09:52 PM

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huphtur Posted…

theres this from nokia

6. May 19, 2003 10:26 PM

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Nate Posted…

If you have windows 2000 or XP, you can download Pocket PC emulator images (apparently you will also need to download eMbedded visual tools). Both are available here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/... I have not tried it, but both downloads appear to be without cost (besides the obligatory bloated software bandwith cost). While we are on the subject of emulators, do other folks have recommendations for other web(ish) devices, like mobile phones, etc? I used the opportunity to look up information about testing against the danger hiptop browser. One can sign-up for free at http://danger.hiptop.com and immediately download a "web guidelines" pdf file with some interesting tips, but apparently access to the emuulator or console requires address verification. Has anyone used this for testing web page display? Of note in the web guidelines "The hiptop Web Browser supports cascading style sheets but you should limit your use of them to formatting text. Using CSS for layout is not recommended." Once I get the console/emulator, assuming it worked for testing websites, I could see which (if any) css filters worked. If there were some that worked, I suppose that solution would be better than the browser sniffing they recommend in the web guidelines, but not nearly as good as if sidekick recognized the handheld media type.

7. May 19, 2003 10:31 PM

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Nate Posted…

That should have been http://developer.danger.com.