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› August 27, 2002
2 Shots
I thought I'd post a photo of my daily breakfast, to stretch the limits of off-topicness.
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1. August 27, 2002 12:45 PM
2. August 27, 2002 12:49 PM
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Nate Posted…
Yes sir, reporting from eMac in fact. Switched a few months ago.3. August 27, 2002 02:13 PM
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huphtur Posted…
thought so heh. winslows IE dun fill window. screengrab: http://www.huphtur.tk/bah.gif4. August 27, 2002 02:17 PM
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huphtur Posted…
Moz adds sliderbars and NS6 does same as IE (all on win)5. August 27, 2002 02:44 PM
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Ah yes.. that’s better (hopefully?)
Nate Posted…
Yuk–you’re right, let’s see rummages around I used to have a handy little php page for showing photos nicely...Ah yes.. that’s better (hopefully?)
6. August 27, 2002 03:52 PM
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huphtur Posted…
much better nate! and i dont mean to ‘front’... but why yur on a mac if yur doing webstuff?7. August 27, 2002 04:02 PM
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I think of the operating system which I use as a house or office, it’s where so much of my time is spent, I want it to be as enjoyable as possible. I started on a Commodore 64 (grade school), moved to Amiga (high school), then to Mac (art school). When I started working in web design I switched over to Microsoft land, and stayed there for six years. There are several things that I enjoy more about Windows boxes, but they amount to a small handful compaired to the overall enjoyment of the mac os operating system. How is that for a non-specific rambling answer?
Nate Posted…
No problem with that question–there are several reasons, but as a sort of umbrella to them all:I think of the operating system which I use as a house or office, it’s where so much of my time is spent, I want it to be as enjoyable as possible. I started on a Commodore 64 (grade school), moved to Amiga (high school), then to Mac (art school). When I started working in web design I switched over to Microsoft land, and stayed there for six years. There are several things that I enjoy more about Windows boxes, but they amount to a small handful compaired to the overall enjoyment of the mac os operating system. How is that for a non-specific rambling answer?
8. August 27, 2002 04:55 PM
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huphtur Posted…
the beauty of choice... life is good innit?9. August 27, 2002 05:22 PM
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Can I get a “word them up, e?”
evan Posted…
Pardon my “argh”, but Macs these days are infinitely more appropriate for web development than Windows. There’s a built in webserver, for one, and better browsers for another. There’s more to that answer, but I think most computer professionals, from designers to system administrators, agree that just about anything is better than Windows for just about any task.Can I get a “word them up, e?”
10. August 27, 2002 05:49 PM
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Server Setup
I’m pretty sure that now-a-days, windows comes with IIS, and installing apache is easy anyways. Recently I’ve compaired the two OSes from a server setup standpoint, getting Php, MySql, PhpMyAdmin, and the various permissions setup on a client’s xserve, versus setting up another client with IIS, Mysql, Perl and various permissions on a windows box. If you’re not an experienced server admin (read “nathan”), you’ll find the windows box takes a fraction of the time to setup and get working. I’m hoping that this will be a non-valid argument in the near future as various apps and enhancements start cropping up for os x. Already there is a lot of help out there, but it’s not yet easy for the non-unixen.
Browsers
I like Mac IE 5 and Chimera better than any browsers on windows, but from an overall standpoint, aren’t other browsers such as Opera and Mozilla further along on the windows side of the fence?
Just about anything
Your last point seemed a little broad, but given what I mentioned in a previous comment about enjoying your workspace, I’ll have to agree.
Oh alright fine: word them up ‘e
Nate Posted…
How did we get from breakfast to OS debate again? Evan, I can’t award you any slang verbage because I just don’t agree. I’m loving my eMac, but I have to play Lou Cypher’s advocate here.Server Setup
I’m pretty sure that now-a-days, windows comes with IIS, and installing apache is easy anyways. Recently I’ve compaired the two OSes from a server setup standpoint, getting Php, MySql, PhpMyAdmin, and the various permissions setup on a client’s xserve, versus setting up another client with IIS, Mysql, Perl and various permissions on a windows box. If you’re not an experienced server admin (read “nathan”), you’ll find the windows box takes a fraction of the time to setup and get working. I’m hoping that this will be a non-valid argument in the near future as various apps and enhancements start cropping up for os x. Already there is a lot of help out there, but it’s not yet easy for the non-unixen.
Browsers
I like Mac IE 5 and Chimera better than any browsers on windows, but from an overall standpoint, aren’t other browsers such as Opera and Mozilla further along on the windows side of the fence?
Just about anything
Your last point seemed a little broad, but given what I mentioned in a previous comment about enjoying your workspace, I’ll have to agree.
Oh alright fine: word them up ‘e
11. August 27, 2002 10:31 PM
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IIS doesn’t even come close to counting(!) but then again, what kind of judge am I? You know I hate Microshite more than anyone else... Seriously though, am I wrong in thinking that setting up a server (at least on a Windows machine) was only possible on NT and 2k? I’m also of the mindset that to build websites, one should know about how these things, servers, dns, browsers, etc. work, unlike much of the work I used to see over at K10K–beautiful, yes, but gave away the fact that their authors (if one calls building flash movies authoring) lacked any kind of understanding of how all this stuff worked. I’m not saying that computers and the web should be hard–I’m not (much of) an elitist, I just think that if we’re going to do it, we’re going to need to do it right (and do it the best way we know how)...
on a Mac–whoop whoop!
P.S. They have Chimera for Windows? And by the way, what the hell is that in the picture? 2 shots of espresso? Ok, enough out of me–back to my hiatus.
evan Posted…
For real though.IIS doesn’t even come close to counting(!) but then again, what kind of judge am I? You know I hate Microshite more than anyone else... Seriously though, am I wrong in thinking that setting up a server (at least on a Windows machine) was only possible on NT and 2k? I’m also of the mindset that to build websites, one should know about how these things, servers, dns, browsers, etc. work, unlike much of the work I used to see over at K10K–beautiful, yes, but gave away the fact that their authors (if one calls building flash movies authoring) lacked any kind of understanding of how all this stuff worked. I’m not saying that computers and the web should be hard–I’m not (much of) an elitist, I just think that if we’re going to do it, we’re going to need to do it right (and do it the best way we know how)...
on a Mac–whoop whoop!
P.S. They have Chimera for Windows? And by the way, what the hell is that in the picture? 2 shots of espresso? Ok, enough out of me–back to my hiatus.
12. August 28, 2002 12:18 PM
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huphtur Posted…
wow.. evan.. so much hate. why? its ok buddy, we love you. besides... nix+apache is the better config for webserver.13. August 29, 2002 09:51 PM
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Andyed Posted…
Nate, Nate, Nate... You see, a few years ago, we gave Nate a coffee grinder. He soon became hooked on the smell and taste of fresh ground beans. Alas, when the time came to upgrade, Nate had not learned the critical factor in purchasing a grinder. The so called “no heat” option results in more of the 200+ chemicals in coffee making it into you! Don’t make the same mistake :-D14. August 29, 2002 11:15 PM
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huphtur Posted…
nate: you on mac?